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arsie · Nov 19, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Consider the following.
The hero will will get next in the story is an Elementalist, and the hero choice that comes after that is between a Ranger and a Necromancer.

So you have access to both those professions soon enough. The question is whether you want to spread your heroes out or concentrate.

Many people run Sousuke and Zhed as double Searing Flames, which is quite effective. You can also run Jin and Magrid as double Barrage.

The next thing is what works better with your profession. I would suggest Jin for your Ritualist, because you can throw Weapon Spells on her. Splinter Weapons come to mind, but Warmonger, Brutal, all work.

If you do not have Prophesies, you might want to choose Jin for your assassin as well, as you might want to take Masters of Whispers as your Minion Master. MM support is quite nice for assassins.

TGgold · Nov 19, 2007, 02:17 AM // 02:17

I almost always pick Sousuke over Jin. It's mostly a habit, and I think that having 2 eles in early pve for most campaigns is the way to go. Useually I'll start EoTN as soon as possible so I have Vekk and Gwen at my disposal as well. I then go get Olias from Proph since it takes about 5 minutes.

This way you have: 2 Eles, a Necro, and a Mesmer. This gives you plenty of room to take Margrid the Sly's path. If you DO take Master's Path (if you don't have Olias), then just take Gwen and have her cast backfire on the Hunger. It takes him down in one casting.

Curse You · Nov 19, 2007, 02:40 AM // 02:40

I've actually ignored both for many of my characters, mainly since I always just pick Margid then get someone to bring their Master of Whispers so I can do Rilohn Refuge. You get both when you finish Nightfall anyways.

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Picking Jin then Whispers is useful, as you can make Jin use Winter and interrupts to make Rilohn Refuge easier.

Not true, winter stopped being useful in that mission a few months ago. Winter now changes the damage type AFTER the damage is calculated, meaning it won't do a thing to counter the environment effect.

arcady · Nov 19, 2007, 08:15 AM // 08:15

If you have GW:EN, you will have an Elementalist hero at level 20 - so go for Jin. GW:EN will also give you Pyre, a ranger, but he's deeper into that expansion. I forget exactly, but I think about 2 missions in.

If not, you will get an Elementalist just before the second mainland mission, and either a ranger -or- necromancer just before the third.

arcady · Nov 19, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Not true, winter stopped being useful in that mission a few months ago. Winter now changes the damage type AFTER the damage is calculated, meaning it won't do a thing to counter the environment effect.

Did that mission a few days ago on my Ranger and the combination of Winter and Broad head Arrow made it trivially easy.

strcpy · Nov 19, 2007, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by arcady

Did that mission a few days ago on my Ranger and the combination of Winter and Broad head Arrow made it trivially easy.

And yet, the person you quoted is 100% correct - winter is now calculated after pretty much everything else. It has been quite tested in one-vs-one PvP in a controlled environment.

My guess is BHA helped MUCH more than Winter given the way the game currently calculates damage. In fact, BHA is fairly good especially when facing very high level casters.

Just because you rolled through a mission and carried X skill doesn't mean X skill works exactly the way you think it does.

Hailey Anne · Nov 19, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Woop Shotty

Think of it this way. You''ll get Margrid the Sly and maybe you can even get Pyre sometime soon. Two Eles is something that is very popular though. How often do you have 2 hero rangers on a team compared to eles. In my experience, start with Sousuke and get Jin later.

You also get Zhed soon. Even sooner then you get Magrid. And as for 2 eles just go do the quest to get to EoTn and you have Vekk.

I always take Jin first unless Im a ranger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Picking Jin then Whispers is useful, as you can make Jin use Winter and interrupts to make Rilohn Refuge easier.

If thats the one im thinking of then who needs winter.
BHA ftw on the boss.

azizul1975 · Nov 20, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22

if you have GW:EN, think of this :

Zhed, Sousuke and Vekk. 3 SF/GG eles.

Hailey Anne · Nov 20, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

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Originally Posted by azizul1975

if you have GW:EN, think of this :

Zhed, Sousuke and Vekk. 3 SF/GG eles.

I HATE SF eles. Get a new build already.

Nov 19, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07	#21
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	Consider the following. The hero will will get next in the story is an Elementalist, and the hero choice that comes after that is between a Ranger and a Necromancer. So you have access to both those professions soon enough. The question is whether you want to spread your heroes out or concentrate. Many people run Sousuke and Zhed as double Searing Flames, which is quite effective. You can also run Jin and Magrid as double Barrage. The next thing is what works better with your profession. I would suggest Jin for your Ritualist, because you can throw Weapon Spells on her. Splinter Weapons come to mind, but Warmonger, Brutal, all work. If you do not have Prophesies, you might want to choose Jin for your assassin as well, as you might want to take Masters of Whispers as your Minion Master. MM support is quite nice for assassins.

Nov 19, 2007, 02:17 AM // 02:17	#22
TGgold Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Flying Gophers Profession: Rt/P	I almost always pick Sousuke over Jin. It's mostly a habit, and I think that having 2 eles in early pve for most campaigns is the way to go. Useually I'll start EoTN as soon as possible so I have Vekk and Gwen at my disposal as well. I then go get Olias from Proph since it takes about 5 minutes. This way you have: 2 Eles, a Necro, and a Mesmer. This gives you plenty of room to take Margrid the Sly's path. If you DO take Master's Path (if you don't have Olias), then just take Gwen and have her cast backfire on the Hunger. It takes him down in one casting.

Nov 19, 2007, 08:15 AM // 08:15	#24
arcady Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Francisco native Profession: Mo/P	If you have GW:EN, you will have an Elementalist hero at level 20 - so go for Jin. GW:EN will also give you Pyre, a ranger, but he's deeper into that expansion. I forget exactly, but I think about 2 missions in. If not, you will get an Elementalist just before the second mainland mission, and either a ranger -or- necromancer just before the third.

Nov 20, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22	#28
azizul1975 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: GMT+8 Guild: The Elite Guard of Tyria (TEGO) Profession: Mo/	if you have GW:EN, think of this : Zhed, Sousuke and Vekk. 3 SF/GG eles.